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  • #15461
    Pat
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    #15462
    John MacLulich
    Member

    Hi Pat

    Yeah – I read that article earlier today, and tried that “fix”. I’ll give it another go, now that the OS has been updated. And I’ll report back to you. I don’t mind mucking around with this Mac – it is not usually used for production, only emails – so I’m not too worried if it does something weird.

    #15463
    John MacLulich
    Member

    Still nothing – the “Automation” pane remains stubbornly empty.

    #15464
    John MacLulich
    Member

    Rebooted in Safe Mode, started MDM, and it worked. Now activated on the second machine. Hopefully production rate will double, now.

    #15465
    Pat
    Staff

    Glad it works.

    That it works in safe mode is a sign that it’s an osx issue (if it would be an app issue it wouldn’t work neither nor).

    Still i am curious if the added app is persistent when booting up normally.

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    #15466
    John MacLulich
    Member

    I just ran the first batch on the second machine. Works perfectly. BUT… it is pretty much the same speed as the first machine. It took 7 minutes to process 544 records. Still not as fast as you reckon it should be going.

    #15467
    Pat
    Staff

    Its important to understand that the merge process and exporting (e.g. PDF) is done by InDesign. So the process will never be faster than your machine processes these things.

    We have test machines here ranging from Mac mini to Mac Pro and 10.13 to 10.16 big sur.

    On all of them we get constantly faster results.

    But additionally – as you have seen before – there are side facts influencing this e.g. where you save the data.

    In summary, MyDataMerge cant neither make Indesign act faster nor can it make your machine faster.

    We support you getting the best and fastest possible results out of it but limits are often settled off the scope of MyDataMerge.

    You’ll hardly find any tool or script within InDesign doing things faster than this.

    I’d like to dig in more into the automation pane thing once you have finished your open jobs. And if there’s anything else we can help you with just let me know.

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    #15470
    John MacLulich
    Member

    Hi Pat

    I understand everything you have said and am grateful for all the help you have provided. I am happy to help investigate the “Automation” issue after we have finished this job.

    In order to further investigate the speed, I have run one job through Indesign’s native Mail Merge on a third Mac – but without using MDM, so the styling looked awful. Obviously I reverted to a single page document, rather than a multi-page one. It took a fraction of the time to generate a PDF file compared to when using MDM, and interestingly it was only a second or so slower if I worked on files stored on a network volume. Roughly 14 seconds for 1,000 records, compared to 11 minutes when using MDM. So the extra processing that MDM did to style the text fields seems to be what is adding huge overheads to the total time taken.

    This suggests to me that although the environment may be crucial to the maximum operating speed of Indesign, there is some factor that is operating on all our Macs that is affecting the speed that MDM processes merge data and Indesign may not be totally to blame?

     

    #15471
    Pat
    Staff

    Thats comparing apples with bananas :)
    When you use InDesigns data merge without styling (obviously cause it can’t handle it), hundreds of records can be processed simultaneously. This isn’t possible when individual records need to be treated differently (cause they need applying styling. Additionally you added a resizing method which needs to be calculated by content each time to fit the text frame’s size. THese are all operations taking little time but multiplied by 1000 it is perceptible.
    If you really want to compare, deactivate all styling including resizing options.

    But at the end – what really matters – is the fact that getting the result you need, with styling, with resizing, way faster than using indesign native mail merge and doing the rest by hand.

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    #15500
    Pat
    Staff

    Have you been able to finish your jobs? Do you need any more help on this?

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    #15507
    John MacLulich
    Member

    Hi Pat

     

    Sorry – I took a few days break, after working 72hrs non-stop.

    Yes – all jobs were completed on time and the client was pleased with the result.

    Thanks again for all your help.

    #15508
    Pat
    Staff

    Glad we could help. Just let us know if there’s anything else you need to know.

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